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Post by tidus97 on Apr 19, 2006 12:33:48 GMT 10
i would like to know how to set a strain of guppy sp that thre offspring look like the perants. i heard that breeding guppys at random will evantualy couse there young to turn back to wild guppys. What i think you mus do to set a strain is to buy 3 guppys that look alike(1M/2F) nad breed them. when the female gives birth you take the fry that look most like there perants and breed those fry to there perants?  i just know im wrong. can someone please post a very simple explanation telling me how to set a strain ;D(please dont use words like inbreeding etc.) |
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Post by sammigold on Apr 19, 2006 16:36:57 GMT 10
Hi Tidus97, First of all let me welcome you to our forum!!! Hope you enjoy it and that you find plenty of helpful info and heaps of friendly discussions.... In regard to your request about info in regard to setting strains I do have to admit to not having much knowledge myself...maybe a couple of others on the forum could help with a simple explanation.. I did however find an article that may help you..(although it does mention the words "in-breeding"  ) anyway I have popped the links here for you to have a look at... Hope they can help you. guppyz.tripod.com/maintaining_strains1.htmlguppyz.tripod.com/maintaining_strains2.htmlIf you dont want articles that mention in-breeding due to personal feeling in regard to this... I hope I havent offended... I will be looking around to see if I can find info regarding maintaining a strain without in-breeding but I think that that is a necessary part of keeping a strain true genetically. will see what we can find out. |
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Post by sassybees on Apr 19, 2006 17:56:29 GMT 10
I know absolutely Nothing about this....But Id like to thank Sammigold for posting those links. I read it and even though most of it was way over my head, I found it interesting. Thanks
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Post by Bumblebee on Apr 19, 2006 19:36:45 GMT 10
Actually you are right!. if a breeder wants to start a strain, he/she will begin by selecting good healthy fish with the traits (colours, body shape and fin shape) that are wanted. These fish will be bred together for the basic breeding stock for the strain, then the parents of this first cross will usually be no longer used (unless one is a perfect example of the fish wanted). This first brood may not show any features of the adults so need to be bred together , this will often bring back the lost traits (we call these recessive traits). this second generation is where you begin to pick fish that are most desirable, and discarding (selling or culling) any fish that are unsuitable. after several generations you will begin to have fish that breed true (produce identicle offspring every time) at this time you have a strain. a few images of a strain 'in progress'. cyberguppy.proboards57.com/index.cgi?board=photos&action=display&thread=1136517093 |
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Post by sammigold on Apr 20, 2006 0:31:46 GMT 10
that was a great simple explanation Bumblebee...thanx
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Post by tidus97 on Apr 21, 2006 16:37:08 GMT 10
No. i dont think the word in - breeding is offensive. i just get it confused with other types of breeding methods anyway i now what to do now. thanks every one |
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Post by sammigold on Apr 21, 2006 17:10:17 GMT 10
LOL.... thats cool.... So what strain are you trying to set?
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Post by Bumblebee on Apr 22, 2006 11:26:47 GMT 10
Good luck, what kind of strain are you hoping on breeding? We may be able to give you a heads up on outcomes depending what strains you are using to start with.
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Post by tidus97 on Apr 22, 2006 20:41:43 GMT 10
Havent been on for a while so sorry for not replying. i will get my digital cam now so please wait  |
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Post by tidus97 on Apr 22, 2006 20:50:13 GMT 10
has anyone ever tried to take a picture of a fish before?!?! it s frigin hard |
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Post by tidus97 on Apr 22, 2006 21:08:20 GMT 10
how do i post an imaga!?!?!?!!
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Post by Bumblebee on Apr 22, 2006 22:40:20 GMT 10
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Post by sammigold on Apr 23, 2006 15:09:25 GMT 10
When taking pics of guppys I find I have to take about 100 shots to get maybe one or two good ones and even then sometimes none...(thank god for digital cameras, I'd never do that with film...)
I sometimes find that if you stand back from the tank and take a shot you might get a really clear one that you can crop.... also when taking photos try to take from above on an angle to stop reflection from flash... HTH... also using "close up" setting on camera can help and I think a faster shutter speed as they move so quickly... even then it is terribly hard!!!
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Post by Bumblebee on Apr 23, 2006 22:47:39 GMT 10
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Post by tidus97 on May 8, 2006 20:48:20 GMT 10
ok/. i havent been on for a while. and in that time my female guppy i was breeding died.(dropsy).i am now trying to breed 2 other fish that look alike.i heard females cam carry sperm and can get fertilezed again without actualy mating but the female i chose hasnt given birth in a month and a half and it hasnt grown any fater so i think shes run 'out of' sperm ;D. by the way i am trying to mate these two.(they are not pics of my guppys but they are exctly the same as my guppys) www.yupparaj.ac.th/web2003/m401/2025/images/gYellowGrass.jpegthe female is the same. but the tip of her tail is red |
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) anyway I have popped the links here for you to have a look at... Hope they can help you.
